Friday, December 07, 2007

Madonna with Angels, byAdolphe-William Bouguereau



I cannot agree with the Mariolatry of this picture, but the angels in it are really beautiful.

10 comments:

Rose~ said...

Matthew,
I despise these kind of pictures. They make my skin crawl Sorry.
I know you don't like what they stand for. I just have a hard time seeing any beauty there because I am overcome with the issues.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

It would be a rotten state of affairs if you had to like everything I post.

Peter said...

Aren't angels genderless or else men?

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Peter, I think these angels are intended to be genderless. They do look a little on the feminine side, but they are in keeping with the tradition of angels looking like andrognyous youth.

I think Genesis 6 raises the possibility that angels may have gender, but I dont want to go into a debate about how 'sons of God' should be interpreted here.

God Bless

Matthew

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

The key is the torso.

Angels are historically never painted or sculpted with breasts.

Of course, the modern manufacturers of Christmas tree decorations ignore this convention and produce figures of angels with a clearly defined female form.

There is an angel on our Christmas tree which has breasts.

Antonio said...

Hey Matthew,

Find some paintings of King Saul, please.

Antonio

Peter said...

Matthew. I enjoy your blog. Keep it up.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Peter, thankyou so much.

Antonio, your wish is my command.

Rightly Divided said...

Angels are always male and always wingless in the Bible.

Check it out.

Cherabim and Seraphim are winged creatures but not necessarily angels.

How can you claim to be a post trib dispensationalist? They are mutually exclusive... Unless you redefine the term like the progressive dispies do.

Jeff

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Rightly Divided, thankyou for visiting.

"Angels are always male and always wingless in the Bible."

It does seem doubtful that all angels have wings.

That does not, however, stop me from appreciating and enjoying pictures of angels that do not have wings. The artists probably did not view their paintings as literal depictions of what angels look like.

Always male?

Possible, but rather doubtful exception in Zechariah 5:9.

I think the Sons of God are angels and they had sex with women.

It is possible, therefore that angels may have gender.

The Bible does not mention female angels, but we cannot rule out the possibility.

"How can you claim to be a post trib dispensationalist? They are mutually exclusive... "

Why do you maintain that Dispensationalism is incompatible with Post-Tribulationalism?