Tuesday, May 02, 2006

Got it all Figured Out?

A few years ago, on a Bible prophecy discussion group, somebody posted a detailed scheme of the chronology of end-time events in relation to the AntiChrist. Somebody replied by saying:

'Great. I will put you on my list of people who have got it all figured out.'


Readers, do you share the same irritation as this person at those who have detailed and comprehensive views of Bible prophecy or theology in general? Have you put me on your list of 'people who have got it all figured out'?

36 comments:

Earl said...

I don't find it irratating at all. I find it really interesting that we can come to eschatology from such different perspectives. I would love to peel back the onions layers to find where the foundation of these different views come from. I've been able to comprehend some of the foundations for the differences between Calvinists and others, but I can't place my finger on why an amillenialist (like me) views Revelation and eschatology so differently from a dispensationalist. I've tried to do it with relatives of mine, but I find it requires a huge amount of patience on both our parts. There is something that goes pretty deep in how we approach Scripture that I would love to identify.

In any case, I enjoy reading your views when I get the chance.

Carey said...

I know you don't have it all figured out, so no, you aren't on my list of pompous morons. You are just opinionated, that's all.

Redeemed said...

Matthew, I really enjoy your posts, you know that.

But nobody is on my "list of people who have got it all figured out"; I have no such list, because there are no such people.

The only "person" that fits that list is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.

Redeemed said...

LOL...Agree with Carey!!!

people who think they have got it all figured out are pompous morons as Carey put it, looollllllll

Redeemed said...

*I meant agreed with carey

The IBEX Scribe said...

Pompous morons...Carey, that's great.

Matthew, you're not on any such list of mine.

Suzanne McCarthy said...

Matthew,

This is a post on Adrian's blog. I find some of the quotes about the role of the pastor in interpreting the word pretty strong.

On prophecy - I don't think much of it but dispensationalism in general has other features such as how we think of the relationship between the church and society, etc. I know I still have some dispensationalist perspective.

I think the guys in the link I provided are good deal more vocal about how they have it all figured out than many brethren.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Thanks for your thoughts, people.

Kitty Cheng said...

Apart from God Himself, I don't think anyone knows it all. So I don't have 'a list of people who have got it all figured out'. By the way Matthew, why do you ask if you would be at anyone's list? Do you think you have got it all figured out yourself?

Ryan S. said...

"Readers, do you share the same irritation as this person at those who have detailed and comprehensive views of Bible prophecy or theology in general? Have you put me on your list of 'people who have got it all figured out'?"

That's why I am not a dispensationalist. They've got it all figured out ;-)

Darby. Larkin. Ryrie. Scofield. Bah Hum-Bug.

I'm still reluctantly historical premillennial though- with amillennialism on the backburner.

Jim said...

Matthew, usually people throw that accusation out when they are totally insecure in their understanding of scripture. Therefore they feel threatened when anyone else claims to have a decent handle on the Word of God.

Of course, only a fool would say he has got it all figured out. There is always room for more light and revelation from the Lord.

You can however be much closer in your understanding than other people simply by adopting the proper methods of exegesis. Therefore those with an amellenialist slant would be on the fringes of any coherent understanding of eschatology.

God bless,
Jim

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Kitty, I certainly do not have it all figured out, there is a lot I need still need to learn and understand.

But I think I have it figured out better than most people.

Most Christians are about 63% correct in doctrine. I am more like 98% correct in doctrine.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Ryan, maybe Dispensationalists seem like they have it all figured out because their views make more sense of the Bible and so they can give a consistent and comprehensive approach to the details.

I am actually Post-Tribulational though. It amazes me that Dispensationalists are so dogmatic about the Pre-Trib rapture. I do not find it convincing at all.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Good thoughts, Jim. Nice to see you again.

Palm boy said...

Yes, I do get very, very irritated with people like that. Thats why I skip most of the blogs with content like that, because I can get everything I need from the bible.

Redeemed said...

Matthew, that's not very humble!

Gal 6:3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

You only left 2% room for error. LOL

Carey said...

98% eh? Yeah, really humble, Matthew. Not one mortal has that much figured out - not even you. The most intelligent theologian doesn't even understand 1% of who God really is. We cannot put God in a box and say we have such-and-such percent of the Bible figured out. God does not work within the small boundaries of the human mind.

Kc said...

Well, you were on my list but since you admit to the 2% error potential I'll have to find another theologian to follow (hehe).

Honestly it never bothers me but it does seem to bother them. ;-)

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

PB, thanks for your opinion.

Carey and Sarah, it is of great interest to me that you both took the remark about 98% correct seriously. It was not serious at all.

This suggests that I often genuinely come across as arrogant. If I appeared humble in my writing, then I am sure you would seen through my irony.

In Britain we have a great tradition of self-mockery.

When King Canute commanded the waves to stop, he was joking. He did not really expect them to obey him. However, popular history treats him as an arrogant fool.

Likewise, Quen Victoria was not being serious when she said 'We are not amused.' It did not do her reputation much good, however.

Thankyou, Carey and Sarah for the subtle feedback.

Kc, thanks for your kind thoughts.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

Kitty Cheng said...

Yes Matthew, I knew you were joking hehe.

I actually find the British humour of self-mokery quite amusing. I learned that from 'Doctor Who' actually.

Jenson's Blog said...

Maybe you might want to consider why he/she would claim that you have "got it all figured out".

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Kitty, that is good.

Jenson, so far nobody has remarked that I 'have it all figured out'. Maybe I will when somebody does.

God Bless

Matthew

Paul W said...

Hi Matthew,

I've read your blogging long enough not to take that comment about you being 98 percent right too seriously!

But I think you are right to be irritated with a comment like that.

Redeemed said...

Internet language!! I was teasing you also.

Carey said...

Oh... I was quite serious. Oops... sorry. If I had read more closely, I would have seen the sarcasm. Was feeling already irritable when I wrote that (twas in a Scottish mood). Sorry!

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Carey, that is fine. Your comment suggests that I probably do come across a bit arrogant sometimes. That is useful to know.

Sarah, that is good.

Paul, the comment was not directed at me, but it was certainly not very constructive.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

The IBEX Scribe said...

In Britain we have a great tradition of self-mockery.

I should have been British. I love to make fun of myself. I just offer so much material to myself that it cannot be helped!

I, by the way, am always right, as is everyone else in my family.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

You would make a fine Englishwoman, Angie.

Carey said...

Life is too short to take yourself seriously. It's fun to make fun of yourself.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Indeed.

Rose~ said...

Ya know, I had to think about this for a while. It doesn't set right with me when people pontificate, but, at the same time, I appreciate confidence in that which one believes.

This person sounds like she was just not happy that you had confidence. Over-confidence IS really buggy. I don't believe I have ever seen you display the thing I am talking about, though - that "over-confidence".. Does that make any sense?

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Rose~, thanks for your thoughts.

It does appear that a lot of you think that comment was directed at me. Do you all read my posts? The remark was made to a person who posted about the timing of the AntiChrist.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

Rose~ said...

I read the post a couple of days ago and the comments and I had forgotten the details by the time I decided to comment. All I was focusing on was that you asked if we added you to our list - so I was focused on you and got the first part confused. Sorry!

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

I am sure I might do the same with your posts, Rose~.

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