Monday, May 29, 2006

Blessed Quietness Journal

Blessed Quietness Journal

Formerly 'Balaam's Ass'.

Have you ever visited this site? I have been visiting it for years, and have to say I think it is the strangest website there is.

The site editor, Steve Van Nattan is a Fundamentalist who advocates House Church-style meetings.

There is an awful lot of stupidity and silliness in the website. The 'go to hell' language is rather disturbing. I have wondered if the site is a sort of parody or satire. However, generally when people attempt to parody fundamentalism, they show a complete ignorance of it. If this is a satire, it is a remarkably clever one.

What is most strange is that despite the harsh language, the site says a lot of very sensible and reasonable things at time. They advocate KJV-Onlyism, yet they criticise Gail Riplinger (albeit with very harsh language). They condemn Texe Marrs as anti-semitic.

Their main hobby horse seems to be Fundamental Baptist churches. They are very keen to expose legalism and authoritarianism in the Fundamental Baptist movement.

If anybody has any background on this site, please let me know.

23 comments:

The IBEX Scribe said...

I'm not sure how much blessed quietness can be found in the post on the front page now. I have never heard of this site before, so I can't offer any insight other than providing an insider perspective on Baptist churches that would call themselves Fundamentalist. I happen to go to one (General Association of Regular Baptist Churches member). The pastor is a hunter, but he has been for years. This is no war frenzy and it is certainly not something that he talks about from the pulpit. Even yesterday when we observed Memorial Day (today's a national holiday over here, and while I would prefer to see the church ignore it I think the themed sermon was very tastefully handled), it was to honor the fallen, not to condemn or condone any war. People leave the church and the leadership is most concerned with their spiritual welfare, not keeping the membership rolls fat. It is not apostasy to change churches and people do it for many reasons. I have to wonder whether he has particular churches in mind when he writes such a harsh post (which I don't think is accurate, if you didn't pick up on that) or if he lumps all Fundamentalist Baptist churches together. (Is that a official denomination or is it a different kind of label?) I can think of one "church" that probably fits his description of militant, but otherwise I think he is looking for too many problems. He criticizes physical militancy while assuming a verbally militant position himself. I don't see how such words promote unity in the body of Christ. This is probably not what you were looking for, but that's my take. I think he's for real.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

"This is probably not what you were looking for, but that's my take."

I was not necessarilly looking for any particular response. I appreciate your thoughts.

Given what I know about sectarian religion in general, I would be very surprised if there is not a lot of nastiness going on in some Fundamental Baptist churches. James Spurgeon's 'Texas Baptist Underground' seems to be dedicated to exposing that sort of thing, though he seems to be part of Phil Johnson's crowd.

Do you not think it is ironic that it is called 'Blessed Quietness' when there is music on every page?

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

Kitty Cheng said...

I don't have any background to this site, but it does look a bit strange to me.

Hey I asked you a question on my blog regarding study, where I said, "I am sure you find studying useful, or else you wouldn't be a PHD student now right? I wonder how you interpret or think about Ecc 12:12 though." Am curious to know what you think Matthew.

The IBEX Scribe said...

Maybe it's more common in the "Bible Belt" Southern states than it is where I am here to have such things in churches. Both in California and New York it is far more common to have really liberal, ear-tickling churches than to find anything quite like what he writes about.

Nicole was not yet up when I was looking at the site, so I had the volume on my computer mute and thus did not notice the music, but, yes, you are right about it being ironic!

Rose~ said...

Wow.
I have never seen anything like that. Thanks for sharing. I can't wait to show the Earnest Contender!

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Satan has always had two extremes on offer.

The liberal churches where the Word of God is ignored and anything is acceptable and the conservative churches where the preachers twist the Word of God to impose their own petty legalisms.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Kitty, it is strange.

Rose~, I am glad you found it interesting.

God Bless

Matthew

Redeemed said...

Matthew, I don't have time right now to really go through the site, but my initial first impression is that I don't find the site to be a blessing...neither quite, lol, as you mention, there's music on every page!!!

It is strange, and "unbalanced".

Revelation 2:17 said...

OOOOh yeah. It's certainly been revamped. Visually.
I had a run-in with that guy over three years ago because of some far-out article he had on the word "Allah" in the Arabic language. Arabic is my native tongue, so sent him a long e-mail to clear him up. He basically ignored it and said let's communicate again. So I never did.

There's something off with that site. Disquieting for sure.

Revelation 2:17 said...

correction...let's NOT communicate again.

I still have the email in my files

Revelation 2:17 said...

2Kings 4:39 And one went out into the field to gather herbs, and found a wild vine, and gathered thereof wild gourds his lap full, and came and shred them into the pot of pottage: for they knew them not.
40 So they poured out for the men to eat. And it came to pass, as they were eating of the pottage, that they cried out, and said, O thou man of God, there is death in the pot. And they could not eat thereof.

Matthew, you're gathering stuff from all over the place, many about which you warn.
You might be strong enough, but others might find death in some of those sites.
I've learned a lot from the stuff you've posted.
But just a word of caution.
God bless you

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Sarah, it is unbalanced, but there is a lot that I agree with in it and I think you would also agree with a lot of it.

Rev, it is very peculiar.

Thanks for the warning.

With regard to this site, there is very little in it which either of us would call doctrinal error. The most objectionable aspect of this site is its harsh 'go to hell' language.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

Ryan S. said...

Sorry for getting off topic.

But I'm I the only one having problems with eBlogger this past weekend, or is it incredibly slow? It takes forever to publish and it keeps producing errors.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

That can be very irritating, Ryan.

Jonathan Moorhead said...

I agree, it is pure "silliness." I love that word. I think I got it from Monty Python.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Yes, it is silly, but it says some good things too.

Consecrated said...

From Balaam's Ass to Blessed Quietness?

Has someone gone underground or what?

Up to you to read between the lines.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Interesting.

I think they were less critical of Fundamental Baptists back when they were called 'Balaam's Ass.'

God Bless

Matthew

Anonymous said...

If you want the lowdown on Steve Van Nattan and his Blessed Qyietness website read Edward Hendrie's analysis at:
http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/HTML%20Pages/VanNattan_hypocrite_liar.htm

Anonymous said...

Excellent, love it! » » »

Steve Van Nattan said...

When you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, it ain't no fun ifn you don't hear one of them yelp.

Isaiah 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

Thanks Fido.

Steve
Texas

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Ukulelemike said...

I'm fairly new to the site, having come across it fairly recently while doing an unrelated search, same as I found this site just now. Form what I have read, I see nothing out of order on his site; busy? Absolutely. Lots of articles and varied subjects? Sure. Is he plain of speech and sometimes a bit raw? Yes indeed. Is there something out of whack? I don't believe so. I am King James Only but also have issues with Ruckman and Riplinger because they have a strange and unusual reason behind why they are so. It is different to believe the word of God is preserved than that it is transpired in the KJV and better than the originals. But at this point I have no issues with any of what I have read. This man has been through the heat of the day and considering where he has ministered, has seen things most American believers in their comfy modern churches has never seen and never will bother to see. It may be he has some insight you do not.